New pro/am collaboration with a LHIRES III

Re: New pro/am collaboration with a LHIRES III

Postby Andrew Smith » Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:40 pm

I accept all you say the point I make is that the discussion is on the wrong forum where the project leaders will not see and benefit from it.

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Re: New pro/am collaboration with a LHIRES III

Postby Joan Guarro Flo » Wed Jul 25, 2018 8:46 pm

Hello,

Etienne's explanation has been very good.

Let me add a note of humor. Our reaction has been similar to that of that father when his son says, "Father, come with me, come, I'll show you how to make the children ..."

Really, we, the spectroscopists, we are like a family, by the way not too extensive, we have to work well.

Regards, Joan.
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Re: New pro/am collaboration with a LHIRES III

Postby Thomas Eversberg » Thu Jul 26, 2018 5:18 am

Hi all!

I'm really surprised about the reactions here. This campaign is triggered by two youngsters in spectroscopy (one is only 19 years old) and guided by two professionals in Lithuania. The requirements (set by the pros) can easily be fulfilled by any experienced amateur. I read complaints about the transfer rate but no real justification for the supposed difficulties (a 20MB transfer per day is nothing). I read complaints about being "used" as a data donator but no real suggestion for how to do it better (every campaign needs a coordinator). Critic in public is easy but doesn't help! Better would be an open minded participation including reasonable recommendations inside a powerful campaign team.

Salut, Thomas

PS: Andrew is right. There is a ProAm Convento Forum where your concerns should be discussed. https://forum.vdsastro.de/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=5335


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